Londo recently wrote an article entitled “Apostate Boogeymen” and it was well received by many. A friend of Londo’s liked the article on his Facebook, which prompted a lady we will call Gina to comment negatively about the article. She stated in so many words that we should all just leave the Witnesses alone and go on with our life. (Which of course is precisely what we are trying to do!) Positivity will triumph just as light always prevails over darkness, so we do not need to be stuck in the negative, and we are trying to shed the many years or even a lifetime of bigotry and judgementalism towards others that believe differently than us. That’s why we are here, posting our articles and comments so that we can “figure it all out”.
Anyway, her response made me wonder what was going through her mind, especially after finding out that Gina herself was DFed some 5 years previously. She was OUT of the Watchtower organization and no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses! So why the negative comment? I decided to message her, and here is the exchange:
My friend who goes by Londo wrote an article that really highlights the terrible treatment meted out by Watchtower and its followers to those that have a differing viewpoint. The governing body and it’s supporters are actually causing suicides and broken marriages over these hateful teachings. This is one of the reasons so many lawsuits are pending against the WT Corporation right now.
Jesus did not support hatespeech or shunning, and in fact he spoke out about the Pharisees, calling them vipers and blind guides. He never advocated these things! See also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw8yU-r8G-8
God loves you just as much as he loves Londo or me or anyone that is a JW elder or regular pioneer. We are all the same- sinners and in need of Jesus’s sacrifice. Drawing attention to terrible name-calling practices is a public service and more need to step up and do this!
All I was stating is my experience was never a bad one. I’m sorry if you feel differently. I hope you find peace.
I already have peace Gina now that I have left the Watchtower and have freedom to worship God without the men of the Watchtower dictating what I could or could not do…which movies I could or could not watch, etc.
I was an elder for many years, served at Bethel, etc. Finding out that I had been lied to was very difficult at first, but I thank God I now know The Truth About The Truth. It has been gratifying for me to help others (that want to) leave this highly controlling group.
Good luck to you in all your endeavors.
I’ve been out for over 5 years so I’m good too. But I don’t feel the need to slander them. That’s all.
One definition of slander: “To make false and damaging statements”. Here is where you are dead wrong Sis in using that word…
Exposing the harmfulness of this intolerant and homophobic religion is anything but slanderous. People need to know that if you sign up with the Witnesses you can NEVER LEAVE unless you want to be spiritually executed. The Witnesses plan to move into YOUR house after you die at Armageddon after all…remember?
It’s true that some “apostates” are mean-spirited and childish in their comments and I don’t advocate picketing in front of Kingdom Halls…but what he wrote was anything but slander. Telling it like it is takes courage. Speaking out and being an activist for the public good is noble and that’s how Martin Luther King Jr, Gandhi, Barack Obama, and many other great figures in history made their contribution to the world.
I didn’t realized the world cares enough about what JW had to say that it would cause a movement if we speak up.
Nearly 20 MILLION people will be going to the memorial this coming Tuesday…and there is currently about 12-15 million others that are DFed as you and I are…this group has and continues to impact lots and lots of good people.
Candace Conti was recently awarded 21 million dollars in court for damages due to WT policies covering up and aiding the JW man that abused her when she was a girl.
I love individual JWs and have no ill will towards them. My goal and Londo’s and a lot of us is to inoculate others that are knocked on by the Witnesses, and to make sure they know going in what this group expects from them and what they really teach.
And that is something men did, individual men. Not the teachings of the religion. Again I see your point a view. But at the same time it’s not enough reason for me to show this animosity towards the whole religion. That’s just me.
Ahhh but you are mistaken. A jury of 12 found that the WT policies DID cause Candace to be molested dozens of times for two years. The elders were instructed by the GB to call the WT legal dept. and NOT the police. They covered it up so as to not give a “bad Witness”, hence the large settlement.
It’s not an “individual imperfect men problem”. It is a systemic, policy-wide one that has caused thousands to be abused at the hands of JWs.
In fact, back in the 80s a governing body member who was twice accused of child molestation was quietly dismissed, given a stipend and retirement plan, and sent to the other side of the US…just like the Catholic church has done so many times…
I don’t remember them teaching that. So again it some bad ppl in the organization just as any other. Still don’t see the point of the wasted energy. As matter of fact I am wasting my energy also. Discussing this. We can go in circles all day and I will still say it’s a sad waste of time. So lets agree to disagree. We both have no affiliation with the religion. We both left for different reasons. We both have different points of view on that departure. It’s ok. I’m not going to judge you. And if you want to judge me that’s ok. I won’t lose any sleep over it. Lets virtually shake hands and go on our way. cool?
It’s in their secret elder handbook Gina…it is there.
But yes I wish you well and am glad you too are now free to live your life however your conscience dictates. If you have children they will be able to be normal and enjoy holidays and other harmless pastimes that we were denied growing up as JWs.
Sorry to be so passionate but this is something that is quite near and dear to my heart. A friend committed suicide last year as a result of being DFed- he couldn’t take being shunned by his family.
And that was just one of the ones I knew. Others all over the world have died in similar fashion, or through drug and alcohol abuse as well. At least two feature length films have been made about Jehovah’s Witnesses and their shunning practices and I doubt they will be the last.
With kind regards,
This was not an uncivil conversation, but ultimately we agreed to disagree. Gina I am sure is a nice person and certainly isn’t “evil”, she is a child of God and a fellow human being as we all are.
It illustrates to me that a large proportion of the many millions that have been put out of the Witnesses physically are still enslaved mentally to the group. They retain the notion that the Watchtower is some benevolent, well-intentioned, non-profit religion guided by God. Now in my experience and the experience of many others of us that is certainly NOT the case. The WT leadership has time and time again shown its true colors and displayed the fruitage of religious bigotry, money-making, and mind control. These are at the center of this organization.
All of us can however do our part, whatever it may be, to dispel these myths and shed light upon the dubious and hypocritical actions that the Watchtower Corporation has perpetrated in the past as well as in the present time.
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 Passing a plate is decried as unscriptural by the Watchtower, and any churches that do so are cast in a bad light, being framed as those that fleece their flocks. (See: Awake 8/2010 p6-7; WT 1957 4/15 pp241-242; WT 1974 9/15 p559; WT 1971 8/15 p505-507)
Yet as the literature condemns collection plates with one corner of its mouth, simultaneously it has a variety of schemes in place to separate large amounts of money from its members, a large portion of whom are uneducated laborers and self-employed window washers. Also the elderly members are targeted by elders who encourage them to make out their wills to the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, oftentimes leaving their estate to the WT corporation rather than their “worldly” children when they die.
At the same time Bethel branches all over the world are being downsized and thousands of full time workers are let go with no skills or savings to live on. ATM machines have been installed in a number of Assembly Halls and donations are taken online via credit card in some countries. Watchtower has dabbled in hedge funds and other investment ventures to grow the billions of dollars they have in assets.